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Season 3 Episode 37

Posted by tinmanfrisbie on May 17th, 2011

Part 2 of 2. We discuss the Smallville finale some more with Rennie Cowan, Kaman Stowell, Sam Rizzo and Mark Cormier. Enjoy!


  • Anabel

    Hi Guys, Thank you for a really enjoyable celebrity super roast of the finale. Your camaraderie and differing points of view are always fun to hear. Thank you very much for all “exclusives” in particular for the comic book. I soooo wanted that thing since I first laid eyes on it. With all the discussions and commentary this week I feel the level of expectation is really raised for the movie! Ahhh, still floating! Isaac, Adam thank you also for your kind words on the last post. I would love to take a crack at writing something, not sure what. Also, Adam, in that case should I not call you Chief? Surely I can’t call you Shirley…

    May 20, 2011 at 9:26 pm
  • tinmanfrisbie

    Thanks again for the comment, Anabel! If you haven’t added Adam or me yet on Facebook, our names are Adam Basciano and Isaac Daniel Frisbie. And also join SimplySupermanBatman on FB as well. Take care!

    May 21, 2011 at 9:33 am
  • OldSupesFan


    I’m very happy for you and your guests that you found so much to like about the Smallville ending. But what you lacked was a critical counterpoint. If all of you ranked the episode as a 9.5 or higher (and then spent the next 90 minutes picking it apart), you lose some objective credibility by saying everything was “awesome.” Hey, there’s nothing wrong in liking the show (I did, too, most of the time). But when you (and the others) repeatedly call the show “perfect”, there’s not much room to really offer criticism … no matter how loving. You needed someone to really argue that the show was a 6 or 7. That Welling did so much well for Clark Kent, yet in my mind (and a lot of other fans) so brutally screwed up the Kal-El part at the end. I’m an old guy who grew up with the Silver Age Superman and I fully bought into the new age storytelling with Smallville. But they could have done so much more … Darkseid could have been better, Jonathan could have been handled better at the end, etc. And I don’t need to be told over and over again that it’s a “Clark Kent series” in an effort to invalidate my criticisms. Geez, you think? But the show still was building toward Superman, not an adult Clark Kent. Unlike your guest, I didn’t experience a religious feeling (lol).

    May 24, 2011 at 12:04 am
  • tinmanfrisbie

    Thanks for your comments @OldSupesFan! Unfortunately I can only say that the way I, or someone else, rates something, is entirely personal and therefore cannot be fully explained to satisfaction at times. I’ll give you what I consider to be the best example of this in my mind. My favorite movie is the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I believe it is a perfect/near perfect movie. But I have no problem picking it apart or finding flaws in it. But in my mind the flaws are insignificant to the overall story. I therefore dismiss them. I feel it is the same way with this finale. Yes I made fun of many parts of it but I felt the final product was excellent. Will my score change over time? Possibly. My score and others at the time were basing our score right after the show aired so we were a little excited. I have changed my score before for something after multiple viewings. And as far as getting someone on that disagreed with us, don’t think we didn’t try. We invited as many people on as we could get. Most were busy and couldn’t make but many were able to come on. If you have listened to previous podcasts you know that Mark Cormier really didn’t like the show after the first few seasons and stopped watching it. His criticisms were many, yet he still offered a high opinion of the finale. If you’d like to come on the show sometime, we’d love to have you on! We have many people on here that disagree with us. Thanks again for your comments and we hope to hear from you again!

    May 24, 2011 at 11:01 am
  • OldSupesFan


    As someone who works in the online world for a great metropolitan newspaper (yes, it’s true), I want to compliment you on your thoughtful replies. A lot of folk online don’t take the time after putting as much effort as they do in their original product (story or podcast, whatever) to respond as civilly as you do. Don’t think that your offer to join you sometime isn’t intriguing … although I fear I would horribly skew your show’s average age (Carmine Infantino was the main artists in the Superman comics I read way back when). I’m enough of a fanboy that I convinced my wife to let us drive through Metropolis, Ill. last summer for a quick day trip, yet enough of the purist to be extremely disappointed in the Superman Museum, which really cries out for Warner, DC or someone to build a modern, engaging facility that doesn’t resemble a really large closet (complete with cobwebs).

    Perhaps when the Smallville complete DVD set actually comes out, that might be a time to consider — with the benefit of a few months of separation — how much the show really did advance/improve upon/damage the overall myth. I do still have the finale on my DVR, but keep thinking that about 35-40 percent of the show could have been trimmed/replaced by more Darkseid, more JLA, more whatever … after all, by then the young girls who were the original audience had either stayed for the finish or long since departed.

    I’m assuming you can read my email address… feel free to contact me sometime if you’re interested in exploring the above topic.


    May 25, 2011 at 9:40 pm
  • tinmanfrisbie

    @OldSupesFan. Thanks again for your kind words. My opinion fluctuates in time, with a few exceptions when it comes to media but who knows with Smallville. I will definitely keep in touch and I hope to hear your thoughts some more about our podcasts. And by the way you wouldn’t skew any ages, only expand our market appeal, hahaha. Take care and keep listening!

    May 25, 2011 at 11:39 pm
  • Bob Marshall

    I gotta say been listeng to these for a while but only left my first comment otherday but have listened to this one twice as I think this is the best podcast you guys have done. I totally agree with been very happy with the way Smallville ended, I’d have been happy with just a shirt rip but the whole CGI Superman saving the day was like an extra for me as I wasn’t expecting it.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what you guys have to say on Man of Steel in future.

    One day I’d love to get involved with one of these podcasts just seems like so much fun.

    Thanks for these awesome listens

    PS. Best podcast on the net for sure

    May 31, 2011 at 3:26 pm
  • tinmanfrisbie

    Thanks for the nod, Bob! We love doing this podcast a lot and your comments make it that much better! Everyone has their opinion about the ending, and we had ours. We’re definitely looking forward to Man of Steel we hope it’ll be epic!

    Jun 1, 2011 at 11:17 pm